Why
I hate the MG RV8
A grim article by Al Clements in the latest issue of Autocar.
Unbelievably unpleasant rubbish. Read the article below and judge
for yourself. (November 2003)
Credit where credit's due, the RV8 fulfilled its brief admirably -
that of reminding the fickle British consumer that less than a decade
and a half before we were building one of the World's most popular
sports cars, the idea was to get the MG marque back in the public
eye, laying the foundations for an all-new car bearing the famous
octagonal badge. But unfortunately rather than prepare, it misled.

Buyers were presented with a chintzed up MGB, a 31 year old design
barely concealed by flared arches and new bumpers. Instead of attracting
the youth market, the RV8 succeeded only in luring the middle aged
flat cap brigade, a breed too old for a TVR and too young for a Morgan.
You'd have forgiven the RV8 if it had been any good, but it wasn't.
Take the cabin. A cross between an antique shop and a DFS sale: acres
of nasty ruched cream leather and walnut door cappings clashed uncomfortably
with plasticky Rover switchgear and a spindly Metro-style wheel. Even
worse, from behind the wheel it felt as though your arms were on one
side of the car and your feet on the other as your body articulated
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wheel and pedals.
Tall drivers could enjoy bruised elbows and knees, together with an
attractive view of the top of the windscreen. The RV8 also had a useless
boot, although at least, thanks to Tickford, it had a proper hood.
With that lovely big V8 up front and rear wheel drive, you might think
this was a subtle supercar in a quaint costume. If only. The classic
Buick-derived all-alloy motor was indeed up front, but in Range Rover
tune it was a reluctant revver and the unsophisticated chassis ensured
a real white-knuckle ride if you foolishly tried to keep up with a
Chimera.
Telescopic Konis in place of the MGB's lever arms, a wider track and
some fat tyres were pretty much the extent of the changes underneath.
Unbelievably the MGB's live axle and leaf springs remained at the
rear and the massively heavy steering was unassisted. And no anti-lock
brakes on a 135mph plus sports car was not a step forward. With light
throttle inputs, it was fine on a bone dry, baby's bottom smooth road,
but give it the large one, ignore the weather forecast or tackle a
bumpy B-road and you could look forward to all manner of perils. Exceed
the tyres' grip and plunging understeer was followed by whip-cracked
oversteer - I almost encountered both at the same time as front and
rear fought for supremacy in the battle to lose grip. The RV8 seemed
to have a magnetic attraction for the undergrowth.
Ergonomically flawed and dynamically inept, it's no surprise that
Rover saw the RV8's rivals as lifestyle accessories such as speedboats
and tennis courts. Just as well though, because put it up against
anything else with four wheels and a bit of grunt and it didn't really
stand a chance.
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Members'
comments on this article
"The "Walnut door cappings" are in fact Elm
burr cappings - but don't let accuracy get in the way of such
poor copy!" - comment from Victor Smith. (24.11.03)
"Clive Wheatley nearly fell down the pit at his garage
laughing when he read the article. He couldn't stop laughing
about it.
Tony Johnson, a new RV8 member who has has just acquired a
reimported RV8 from Clevewood Garage at Downend near Bristol, said
"I was chuckling over how anyone could write such rubbish all
the way home to Solihull!" Tony will be registering the RV8
with the V8 Register shortly. Just before he popped over to Wolverhampton
to see Clive, he spotted this item in Autocar and very kindly sent
a copy to the V8 Website.
(24.11.03)
Frank Morand (MGBGTV8 Mirage 0197) from from France now based
in Thailand, emailed to say "I popped into the V8 Website
today to get away from the daily stress and found this terrible Autocar
article". He mentioned he had seen this type of article before
on the MG RV8 and the MGBGTV8 but believes "we should take
this type of press article with the utmost circumspection." (26.11.03)
Peter Garton (MGRV8 Woodcote Green 1238) from Koblenz in Germany
commented "of course we all know in our hearts, if we're honest,
that the MG RV8 has its design problem areas. Nevertheless it is quite
obvious from the article, which contains some horrible journalistic
abuse of the English language by the way, that the perpetrator in
all probability drives an ultra modern diesel German/Japanese hatchback!!
I love my MG RV8, which always attracts the inevitable admirers who
have never seen such a lovely car sports car with a typical British
luxurious interior design; only to be found, these days, on extremely
expensive models. The car is a joy to drive although I admit that
I certainly do not try race all over the place which the writer of
the article attempted to do quite obviously. When I get my power steering
fitted next year, one |
of
my "problem areas" will be eliminated". (29.11.03)
Tim Whiteley (MG RV8 Oxford Blue 0935) emailed to say "I
have to say that this article just about sums up our great British
motoring press - was is not written by Jeremy Clarkson? I have been
an MG enthusiast for years and despite the misgivings of the RV8,
I find it to be everything I ever wanted. It wasn't designed to be
"hurled" around bumpy B roads, and I suspect most owners
wouldn't even dream of putting their vehicles through that kind of
torture any way. I have driven many other cars, including the TVR
Chimera which I found to be of poor quality, poorly finished and over
estimated, none
of which would apply to the RV8. Besides, the RV8 is made out of "proper"
materials not fibre glass! The one thing the RV8 does have in its
favour is its relative scarcity, which attracts numerous admiring
glances and statements like "that's a beautiful car, what is
it?"
Victor Smith (Harvest Gold 1089) notes that "the current
fashion in the motoring press and on motoring programmes on television
is for the laddish mentality that thinks it is clever to be seen driving
cars "on the edge" with rubber howling - Clarkson and others
exhibit this and have made it their style. Their glib, self-important
comments are often worthless claptrap which suggests the programme
makers have seriously lost the plot. Frankly many discerning sports
car enthusiasts are heartily sick of it. Bring back Goffey and Woolard
- even Quentin Wilson - with their more intelligent and thoughtful
style which was much more informative and relevant and worth reading
or viewing. The sad thing is a good quality motoring publication has
closed recently - MG World - but at least we still have MG Enthusiast
providing good quality MG information and reviews! I am afraid if
the best Autocar can do is this type of material, then the best place
for copies of the magazine is in the environmental black bin on the
way to the pulping factory!".
To be continued with members' responses on the Autocar article
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For
a more balanced review of an RV8 here is an example of good quality
motoring journalism with balanced and informed comment in
MG World
An interesting review of an RV8 which had undergone a comprehensive
refurbishment by the Yorkshire based specialist, Mike Satur, was published
in MG World in 2003. The article was an example of good quality motoring
journalism with balanced and informed comment. The contrast with the
Autocar article both in content and style could not be greater!
The RV8 reviewed was finished in a non-standard colour - Zircon
Silver - with grey leather seats and trim. The new colour really
suits the RV8 and sets off the lines very well. The car was formerly
BRG 0355 but is now registered with the V8 Register as Zircon Silver
0355. In December 2003, this car was up for sale again as the new
owner had been posted overseas. For details of the car, see the advert
on the RV8s for Sale webpage. RV8s for
Sale
The four page article was produced by MG World in their February/March
2003 issue. Sadly this excellent specialist MG magazine has unfortunately
folded at short notice with
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the
final issue in December 2003. The editor was Philip Raby who produced
an interesting magazine which many V8 enthusiasts subscribed to. We
very much hope Philip will soon be back involved as editor of another
motoring publication.
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