Concern
over poor quality replacement hoses
There have been reports for some time that the quality of replacement
rubber cooling hoses for the MGBGTV8 have not been as good as the
spares items previously available. But why has the quality dropped
off with a reduced service life and loss of reliability? So I contacted
Peter Beadle, an acknowledged expert in MGBGTV8 spares and formerly
parts manager with Moss and before that University Motors when the
V8 was launched, who confirmed there is a problem with the quality
and reliability with the V8 cooling hoses available from most spares
suppliers. (8.8.07)
What is the position with V8 cooling hoses?
Peter Beadle explained that Dunlop and Avon, the manufacturers of
the string reinforced original equipment for the V8 who had gone
on to supply the leading spares suppliers with V8 hoses for many
years, had pulled out of the market in the last few years. The reason
- simply the market for pre-1975 replacement string reinforced hoses
was just too small. So far as he was aware there was no UK manufacturer
doing string reinforced cooling hoses now so stocks of original
string reinforced hoses had run out quite rapidly. To maintain a
spares service, replacement hoses in either straight rubber or Kevla
reinforced rubber had been sourced by the leading MG suppliers.
These have been sold direct to enthusiasts and distributed through
service and spares specialists around the UK. These alternative
replacement parts usually have a "Z" after the
part number - so do look out for GRH512Z and GRH511Z
when buying spares hoses for your MGBGTV8.
Performance of the alternative hoses
Straight rubber and Kevla reinforced rubber hoses do perish over
time and seem to do so far more rapidly than the original equipment.
When they start to weep they are then likely to split so enthusiasts
with these hoses need to watch them very carefully indeed. They
can blow when a V8 has been turned off after a run when the accumulated
heat in the engine raises the temperature in the cooling system
but similar conditions might easily occur in slow moving traffic
on a hot day. So with those risks in mind it would be wise to replace
rubber and Kevla reinforced rubber top and bottom hoses on a preventative
basis every two years - Peter even suggested replacing them every
year might be better as they are not that expensive and are relatively
easy to change.
Can string reinforced V8 cooling hoses be sourced overseas?
Peter mentioned that new supplies of string reinforced cooling hoses
for the MGB 1800 models had been sourced from manufacturers in the
Far East and were available from leading MG spares suppliers and
through the distribution system, so the problem for MGB enthusiasts
was better. But what
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Top
hose GRH512 (9) and bottom hose GRH511
(11) from a diagram on page 20 of the MGBGTV8 Parts
Supplement MGL001B available from Moss Europe
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about the V8
hoses? Well Peter confided there were moves to source string
reinforced hoses for the MGBGTV8 from similar overseas manufacturers.
Peter said this project would need a pair of original V8 cooling
hoses and it is hoped a longstanding V8 enthusiast with a pair
of the hoses in their much valued personal stock of spares would
make them available as templates for remanufacture. So hopefully
that sourcing project should be underway soon and then supplies
of the better quality string reinforced V8 cooling hoses - both
top and bottom - could be restored and available to V8 enthusiasts
once again.
What about silicone rubber cooling hoses?
Back in May 2005, Phil Bristow wondered if there was any interest
amongst fellow V8 members for sets of MGBGTV8 cooling hoses
in a more durable silicone rubber material. He has just completed
a restoration on his 1973 chrome bumper MGBGTV8 and found that
many new parts were of indifferent quality not least replacement
cooling hoses. Given the obvious importance of those hoses he
wanted to get the best available, so he began considering silicone
rubber hoses. These were not available as a set for the MGBGTV8,
but he found they were used for fast road and race applications.
Phil noted silicone rubber hoses are extremely durable and long
lasting, and he felt they also looked good too with a 'shiny'
finish and a choice of colours! But for V8 enthusiasts with
even a mild interest in originality they are certainly different!
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