| Buying 
            an MG V8? - take care with your SORN declaration, there can be a very 
            nasty sting from DVLA! If you purchase a car in the UK which is not taxed for 
            the road, then it should be covered by a SORN. The present registered 
            keeper (usually the seller) is responsible for taxing the car or making 
            a SORN declaration, so you should insist the seller produces either 
            a current road fund licence or a current SORN. The SORN will usually 
            be in the form of a standard DVLA letter as a DVLA acknowledgment 
            of a SORN which will state the date the SORN "notice began 
            to apply" and that "this lasts for 12 months". But 
            what do you do if the car has neither a road fund licence or a SORN 
            acknowledgment from the DVLA? Well your reaction as a responsible 
            citizen purchasing the car will be to make sure two matters are dealt 
            with promptly by:
 
 Making a SORN declaration as rapidly as possible using a recent 
            tax renewal reminder can be used to submit a SORN or you might need 
            to download a Form 
            V890 (see the SORN1 webpage for a link 
            to obtain a Form V890 online) and make your SORN declaration. In both 
            cases those forms could be submitted to a Post Office branch that 
            handles the issue of road fund licences. Do ensure you get a "NIL 
            payment" receipt from the counter clerk as evidence the Post 
            Office branch has accepted your SORN declaration form for transmission 
            to DVLA - that is essential.
 
 Ensuring the change of Keeper is notified to DVLA promptly 
            following the completion of the purchase. Whether the vehicle has 
            the old Vehicle Registration Document V5 or the new EU style Vehicle 
            Registration Certificate V5C, there is a section on each form for 
            supplying the name and address details of the New Keeper (the buyer) 
            which is then sent off to DVLA to be processed so the New Keeper (the 
            buyer) is recorded as the Registered Keeper. The existing registered 
            keeper has an clear interest in doing this very promptly because the 
            Registered Keeper will continue to be liable for the vehicle until 
            DVLA is informed of the change of keeper. It is probably prudent to 
            send that notice by recorded delivery.
 
 Gavin Bailey also adds "with the DVLA fines it may 
            also be worth mentioning that it is essential that members with V8s 
            remember to keep the address on their V5s up to date if they move 
            house as a SORN renewal notice accidentally going to an old address 
            and not being forwarded could prove very costly!" (26.1.05)
 
 Take care and note the extraordinary tale in the panel alongside.
 
 
 
 
 
  For 
              overseas members, the "DVLA" is the Driver & 
              Vehicle Licensing Agency which is a UK Government agency, and a 
              "SORN" is a Statutory Off Road Notification, a 
              formal document the registered keeper of a vehicle has to return 
              to the DVLA if the vehicle is not taxed for use on public roads 
              in the UK through the payment of a 6 or 12 month road fund licence. 
              
              Updated: 
              13.12.08 |  V8 Register - MG Car Club
 
  
              
                 
                  | Take 
                      note of this extraordinary case - it could apply to you 
                      too! 
 In the extraordinary case James Fairchild reported in SORN4, 
                      he prepared a SORN whilst he was still sitting in the sitting 
                      room of the person from whom he had purchased the vehicle 
                      and then promptly sent it off to DVLA. The seller filled 
                      in the New Keeper details on on the vehicle registration 
                      document and sent that off to the DVLA shortly afterwards. 
                      You would hope that would have met all the requirements 
                      responsible citizens buying and selling a vehicle should 
                      do - even under the new draconian DVLA vehicle licensing 
                      and SORN regulations.
 
 You can imagine the surprise James subsequently felt on 
                      realising some time later that a letter he had received 
                      from the DVLA, which he had merely glanced at thinking it 
                      was a standard acknowledgment of a SORN, was in fact a formal 
                      refusal to accept his SORN! - But why? Simply James had 
                      sent his SORN to DVLA too promptly - yes too promptly! 
                      It seems that when it got to the DVLA and was processed 
                      by jobsworth1, and that person found from the DVLA 
                      records James was not the Registered Keeper. But why when 
                      the seller had sent in a notice of change of Keeper? Simply 
                      that notice was still being processed by jobsworth2 
                      at the DVLA who had not yet reached the stage of recording 
                      the new Registered Keeper on the DVLA systems. Because James 
                      had not spotted the letter from the DVLA had refused to 
                      accept the SORN and consequently did not then respond - 
                      when of course he should have submitted another! - he later 
                      received an £80 penalty notice for not having submitted 
                      a SORN!! Quite extraordinary - clearly the DVLA systems 
                      do not operate on common sense. It seems they do not record 
                      an attempt to make a SORN just in case their processing 
                      of change of keeper notices are behind the arrival of the 
                      SORNS!
 
 So a caution - do not fail to read any letter from 
                      the DVLA, and do not assume a DVLA letter is just a plain 
                      acknowledgment of a SORN. If James had read the letter he 
                      received closely he would have known he had to write again 
                      pointing out that he had by then received a V5 issued in 
                      his name as the Registered Keeper and that they should accept 
                      a SORN from him. If you do not read official letters it 
                      may well lead to unfortunate consequences for you - even 
                      a serious £80 penalty or worse.
 
 The heavy handed DVLA are becoming quite brutal
 Whether you are a good citizen who has tripped up on their 
                      procedures or one of the hard core road tax evaders - they 
                      are all the same to the DVLA! Submitting a SORN is not a 
                      casual exercise, make sure you have proof of Post Office 
                      processing by getting a NIL payment receipt at the counter, 
                      and do not send the SORN too soon so it arrives before the 
                      change of Keeper notice, or you may have to keep submitting 
                      SORNS until they concede you are in fact the Registered 
                      Keeper of the vehicle.
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