Driving
in London - what's the position?
It is not surprising some members have found the present and proposed
situation with the London Congestion Charge Zone and London Low Emission
Zone puzzling. It is a very confusing subject, not made any easier
by all the spin applied by the London Mayor's Office and TfL plus
of course there has been a recent election for the post of London
Mayor, and a new Mayor, Boris Johnson, has been appointed.
The basic position is that there are two entirely separate schemes
- the Congestion Charge Zone affecting central London and the Low
Emission Zone covering an area of Greater London almost out to the
orbital M25 motorway. In this note, Chris Hunt Cooke clarifies
the position for members but adds a caution that it is subject to
change, so "watch this space!".
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Any views from members
on either the London CCZ or LEZ will be welcome on the V8BB. (21.6.08)
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Emissions
Related Congestion Charge Zone
The London Congestion Charge was introduced in February 2003, covering
an area of central London, and was extended westwards in February
2007. The current charge is a flat £8 a day, subject to certain
exemptions and discounts, and operates on weekdays between 7am and
6pm. Regulations have been laid introducing a higher charging band
of £25 for certain cars and utility vehicles, with no discounts,
with effect from October this year. The vehicles affected are those
type approved after 1 March 2001 with CO2 emission figure more than
225 g/km and those type approved before that date with engines of
over three litres capacity.
Transport for London of TfL has accepted the FBHVC (Federation of
British Historic Vehicle Clubs) contention that this means that vehicles
over three litres that were never type approved cannot be charged
at the higher rate. This is an unintended consequence of the way the
regulations were drafted, and TfL have indicated that they intend
to introduce a variation order, subject to discussions and consultations.
See note
on type approval below.
Porsche GB is mounting
a legal challenge to the £25 proposal, and Boris Johnson, the
new Mayor, said prior to his election that he would not introduce
that charge, so we shall just have to see what happens over the next
few months!

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The
London Low Emissions Zone
The Low Emission Zone (LEZ) is now in place, it covers the whole of
the Greater London Area or GLA, and is designed to stop the most polluting
vehicles entering London at all by imposing a very high charge.
It applies to diesel-engined
HGVs, buses, coaches, vans, utility vehicles and minibuses that do
not meet the required emissions standards. The charges apply 24 hours
a day, 365 days a year and are set at a penal level to encourage older
commercial vehicles off the roads of London. The important thing for
members is that cars (and petrol/lpg vans) are not included. So
no MG is therefore affected at all by the LEZ.
The
Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs, or FBHVC, is a
grouping of over 450 clubs and museums together with some 1,500
trade and individual supporters. The aim of the FBHVC is to
uphold the freedom to use old vehicles on the roads without
any undue restriction and to support its member organisations
in whatever way it can. |
Clarifications provided
by FBHVC. (22.6.08) |
Vehicle
type approval
As vehicle type approval started in the UK about 1983-85, some seven
to nine years after production of the MGBGTV8 model ended at the MG
Factory at Abingdon, it is unlikely the model will have been type
approved. From a scan of the MGBGTV8 Driver's Handbook AKD 8423 (4th
Edition), MGB Workshop Manual AKD 3259 (15th Edition) and MGBGTV8
Workshop Manual Supplement AKD 8468 Issue 2 there is no mention of
type approval there. As a doublecheck a request for clarification
has been sent to the British Motor Industry Heritage Centre at Gaydon.
(22.6.08) |
Was
the MGBGTV8 ever type approved? - it seems very unlikely
The London Congestion Charge was introduced in February 2003, covering
an area of central London, and was extended westwards in February
2007. The current charge is a flat £8 a day, subject to certain
exemptions and discounts, and operates on weekdays between 7am and
6pm. Regulations have been laid introducing a higher charging band
of £25 for certain cars and utility vehicles, with no discounts,
with effect from October 2008. The vehicles affected are those type
approved after 1 March 2001 with CO2 emission figure more than 225
g/km and those type approved before that date with engines of over
three litres capacity.
Transport for London of TfL has accepted the FBHVC (Federation of
British Historic Vehicle Clubs) contention that this means that vehicles
over three litres that were never type approved cannot be charged
at the higher rate. This is an unintended consequence of the way the
regulations were drafted, and TfL has already indicated that it intends
to introduce a variation order to include them, subject to discussions
and consultations. Now
with a 3.5 litre engine, the MGBGTV8 model would be caught but only
if it had been type approved. But has it ever been type approved?
That was a question we have tried to clarify. As vehicle type approval
started in the UK about 1976, around the time MGBGTV8 production was
ending at the MG Factory at Abingdon, it is unlikely the model will
have been type approved. I have checked the following documents and
can find no mention of type approval for either the MGB or MGBGTV8
models:
MGBGTV8 Driver's Handbook AKD 8423 (4th Edition)
MGB Workshop Manual AKD 3259 (15th Edition)
MGBGTV8 Workshop Manual Supplement AKD 8468 Issue 2
So I contacted BMIHT at Gaydon to see if they have any information
or records which might clarify whether the MGBGTV8 model was never
type approved? Richard Bacchus at the BMIHT Archive at Gaydon
replied: "I'm afraid the build records do not state whether a
vehicle has been type approved. I am told that type approval came
into being in 1976, with MGBGTV8 production ending in September 1976,
so some of the late vehicles could fall into the type approval category."
Whether type approval applied as "whole vehicle type approval"
in 1976 may in any case be in doubt as Jim Whyman at the FBHVC
believes "type approval crept in first with consumables like
tyres and did not progress to "whole vehicle type approval"
until just over 20 years ago".
On reviewing
the position Chris Hunt Cooke (a V8 enthusiast with a V8 Roadster
and currently the FBHVC chairman) commented: "It is quite extraordinary
that the government does not keep records of vehicles it has type-approved,
but that does seem to be the position, according to information I
found yesterday on the website of the government agency responsible.
That agency is the VCA - Vehicle Certification Agency - a new one
on me! I found the website after searching for "whole vehicle
type approval. One of the VCA FAQ responses below is interesting."
Where
can I find a type approval certificate/Certificate of Conformity?
If one is available for your vehicle, it is the manufacturer
who will supply this. The Government does not hold copies. Contact
the UK importer or agent of the manufacturer if it is based
overseas. The address should be available on the internet. If
the manufacturer cannot supply a certificate they may be able
to provide a 'Commission Notice' letter in which case an application
can be made to the VCA for "Mutual Recognition" but
note however that this only applies to vehicles previously registered
in another EC member state. If neither can be obtained then
you will need Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) from VOSA (that
is explained in another item on VCA the website).
http://www.vca.gov.uk/other/faqs-vehicle-importi.asp
Source: VCA website
John James (T Type) contacted us
to say if you do a Vehicle Enquiry search on the DVLA website
for an MGBGTV8, the report that comes up says "Vehicle
Type Approval - null". So this suggests there is no type
approval for the MGBGTV8. (4.7.08) Vehicle
Enquiry search |
Chris Hunt Cooke comments "The position is far from satisfactory,
but I suppose that IF the emissions-related congestion charge does
come in (assuming Boris Johnson might have reneged on his election
promise) AND at that point TfL has not succeeded in amending its regulations
governing it, then the onus will be on TfL to show that the vehicle
concerned was type-approved, and then it will come up against this
difficulty. It may be that the chairman of the V8 Register should
drive his car into central London on the first day of the £25
charge in October 2008 in order to test the system and advise his
members!"
At around
a typical 18mpg in Central London, driving a V8 in congested streets
is expensive and certainly not much fun but hopefully a suitable indemnity
would be provided by Chris Hunt Cooke for that test! (Victor
Smith 24.6.08)
The
Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, has ended proposals to introduce
a CO2 Charge
The CO2 Charge would have meant owners of
vehicles emitting the highest levels of CO2 (226 g/km and above),
such as large family cars, would have had to pay £25 a
day to drive in the central London Congestion Charging zone.
The High Court has now confirmed that the paperwork necessary
to end the proposal has been completed. This means there
will be no increase in charge for drivers of vehicles emitting
226 g/km and above of CO2 (VED Band G and some equivalent Band
F vehicles) from October 2008. Chris Hunt Cooke
spotted this news item and a report in the Mail that "
TfL have agreed to pay Porsche's cost in mounting a challenge,
which Porsche will donate to charity". More
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