Cash for old cars proposals
Prince of Darkness eyes scrappage scheme
The report in today's Times of the announcement made yesterday by the lordly Mandelson, the Secretary for Business, says "all the aid announced for the car industry yesterday is supposedly linked to "lower carbon initiatives", but the car industry expects the green requirement to be interpreted very loosely". But was it simply "green spin" from his Lordship - were there any direct measures to encourage sales of greener cars in Britain? The Times suggests the answer is No, but then adds he "is understood to be looking at the French and German [elderly vehicle] scrappage schemes, under which drivers who trade in old gas guzzlers get a state grant of up to €2,500 (£2,329) towards a new car." It adds that an official in the Business Department said: "We are not yet convinced that a scrappage scheme is the right way forward."

The topic of scrappage came up on the V8 website at the beginning of December 2008 when news that the UK Government was looking at ways to offer drivers incentives to scrap older cars had leaked out. The proposals for a "cash for old cars" initiative was said to be targeted at 17 to 18 year old cars, the age at which cars in the UK probably tend finally to drop out of everyday use and are either scrapped or, in a relatively few cases, preserved and restored as a hobby car. So for most old cars the proposals would probably be doing no more than slightly accelerating the natural wastage on economic grounds by introducing another economic factor.
Cash for cars news item

Poor Condition 3 V8s at a growing risk of being broken for spares
In yet another news item on the V8 website last April, we highlighted the sad economic realities for Factory MGBGTV8s in need of major restoration - they are at risk of being broken for spares simply because the residual value for a major restoration is very often lower than the aggregate value broken for spares. When a Factory MGBGTV8 reaches a stage where a serious restoration is necessary, the high cost of restoration and the current modest market prices for Condition 1 and 2 cars means the residual value of the car for restoration is quite low. The aggregate value of the key components when a car is broken for spares - gearbox, back axle, engine and other parts - is possibly double or more than the residual value for restoration. Sadly we are seeing a small but nonetheless flow of Factory MGBGTV8s being broken for spares even where a restoration is feasible. The increasing interest amongst V8 enthusiasts for V8 Roadster conversions is contributing to a demand for those spares. So the trend seems likely to continue unless the prices of Condition 1 and 2 MGBGTV8s rise substantially, but in the present economic conditions in the UK that seems unlikely for a year or so at the earliest.
Earlier cash for cars news

So how might a UK scrappage scheme work?
So what side effects might a "cash for cars" scheme have for a classic car which has reached a stage where it needs serious or even moderate restoration? Well the outline of the proposals seems to indicate the cash payment for an elderly car that is "scrapped" would be used to buy a new car - but how

would that work? Presumably the owner of an old car which is formally scrapped would receive the grant - possibly a voucher that could only be redeemed as part of the purchase consideration for a new car. A "new car" is likely to mean a car recently manufactured and unregistered. But the reality is only a small proportion of owners disposing of an elderly car then go out and buy a brand new car, more often they trade up to a good secondhand car. The seller of that good secondhand car might then buy a brand new car. So there is a chain of buyers and sellers between a scrapped car and the purchase of a new car. Faced with this, it is very likely imaginative car traders and salesmen will soon find ways of acting as "facilitators" to make that "merry go round" work. Alternatively if the grant or voucher were to be assignable, then the owner scrapping their old car might be able to sell the voucher at a discount to a
purchaser of a brand new car thereby reducing their purchase price. That would effectively transfer the financial incentive to a prospective new car buyer and help encourage them to go ahead and buy a new car. As the underlying aim of the measures announced yesterday is to put an economic stimulus into new car sales and therefore help vehicle manufacturers and their workers, surely that transfer would be effective.

But another feature of a cash for cars scrappage scheme needs clarification - who gets the scrap? How will "scrapped" be defined by any scheme? If a car has to be taken off the road permanently to qualify - and possibly a new scrapped or written off category might be introduced and attached to the vehicle data record - then the owner could sell a "cash for cars vehicle" designated as "scrapped and off the road" to be broken for spares so the aggregate value of the spares could be realised. However I fear this is another economic effect which could hasten the end of a tired and rusty classic car because then the residual value of the car would not only be the spares value but also the cash for cars grant or voucher value - or a major part of it. That combination, assuming say a net £1,500 voucher value, could easily be £3,500 and more. That figure would compete seriously with a buyer looking for a good restoration project, so the likelihood is the economic value of tired MGBGTV8s going for formal scrappage to then be broken for spares will be sufficiently attractive that sadly we would see an increase in V8s being broken for spares, particularly in a recession or worse.

What are fellow members' views?
(27.1.09)
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