369 Fitting
anti-tramp bars to a V8 Chris
Armitage (Tundra 2066) from Hampshire posted a note on the V8BB with useful information
on fitting anti-tramp bars in conjunction with softer leaf springs which have
led to significant improvements in handling and ride quality. (Nov
07) In my opinion the standard V8 springs are too hard - their
increased rate over the 1800 items being a compromise to give the axle better
location to allow for the extra torque of the V8. So a few months ago I fitted
standard 1800 MGBGT rubber bumper rear springs as an experiment. I had to have
these lowered by around 1.25 inches and re-shaped, by Brost Forge in London, as
new springs today are often of poor quality. The result was vastly improved ride
comfort - a HUGE improvement. But the axle was not now mounted firmly enough,
the softer springs allowing too much axle movement, meaning that the car steered
from the rear under acceleration and deceleration. The softer springs also exposed
the front (standard) anti-roll bar as being too soft, allowing the car to 'wallow'
somewhat. I tried replacing the rubber spring pads (between the spring and the
axle) with polyurethane items which gave only a marginal improvement.
For the next stage of this exercise I fitted anti-tramp bars (rubber bushed ones
from Moss), with low expectations after negative comments from others, but in
the event they have absolutely transformed the handling of the car. They are reasonably
straightforward to fit, no harder than fitting replacement rear springs. The only
modification to the car is the need to drill four small holes alongside each front
mounting of the rear spring, to accommodate the bolts which locate the front bracket.
The result is a car which feels more solid and 'together'. Steering
direction is unaffected under all power on - power off conditions and the comfort
level is, compared to the standard V8 springs, a 'magic carpet ride'! Another
benefit is much improved cornering, partly due to the softer rear springs. At
least one original road test alluded to the harder rear springs impairing the
handling. I have also now re-fitted
my Ron Hopkinson
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front anti-roll bar, which originally, in conjunction with the standard V8 set
up, had made the ride unacceptably
rough. However, with the softer 1800 rear springs I now seem to have the perfect
combination, giving just the right level of taut feel to the handling without
harshness. Despite my initial expectations there is no detectable additional
vibration or noise transmitted through the anti- tramp bars. I am generally not
a great fan of performance modifications as the negatives usually outweigh the
positives in my experience, but I would completely recommend the above changes.
Three final footnotes: First my V8 has always ridden higher on
one side (especially at the rear) than the other- as many seem to do. As part
of the above changes I inserted spacers (amounting to about three quarters of
an inch) between the spring & the axle on the 'higher' side to level it up.
Usually this disparity would cause an uneven twist of the axle under acceleration
and even more rear-end steer, but the anti-tramp bars take care of that issue
as well. Secondly, anti-tramp bars are primarily marketed to limit 'tramp'
or wind up and the violent reaction of the axle under hard acceleration. This
has never afflicted my car even with the 1800 springs fitted, as I value my standard
powertrain too highly to risk damaging them, but the bars confer the other benefits
as described here which are not mentioned it their marketing material. They should
also make the springs last longer as they are no longer subject to the same violent
twisting forces from the axle under load. Finally, MG RV8s had anti-tramp
bars fitted as standard and presumably therefore have rear spring rates appropriate
for maximising ride comfort and handing rather than for axle location purposes.
It is possible that the Factory MGBGTV8 would have been given this set up if BL's
development budget in 1972-73 had been greater. |