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Experience with Spax rear shock absorbers
Andy Torode was faced with replacing his worn out telescopic shock
absorbers and posted a message on the V8BB in May for some help. This
note sweeps up the postings and later email from Gordon Hesketh-Jones.
(Jun 07)
I have
a Spax tubular shock absorber conversion on my MGBGTV8 fitted some
time ago and they are on their way out. I obtained a set of Gaz shocks
to change them over, but they do not appear to be long enough. The
Gaz shockers are 17.125" from centre to centre of the holes fully
extended, but the existing Spax must be an inch longer measured on
the car - good job I checked before getting them off! My car was a
1973 car but was re-shelled into a rubber bumper body at some point
and the ride height is quite high. Can you get replacement shock absorbers
in different lengths to cover the different heights? Moss and MGOC
seem to have a "one size fits all" approach according to
their catalogues.
Gordon
Hesketh-Jones responded: "Some 5 to 6 years ago I carried
out development testing for Spax and fitted seven or eight different
pairs of prototypes to my chrome bumper MGBGTV8, then reported the
results to Spax each time after approximately 500 miles. I still have
a few pairs in my garage and they measure from 13.75" up to 15.75"
centre to centre. How were you measuring the Spax - were they compressed/static
or was your car jacked up?
The old Spax
which I first fitted 15 or18 years ago were indeed very long and could
be seen to be sticking out below the bottom of the rear springs. For
all modern telescopics you need to take off the plates under the springs
and reverse them side to side. This is a complicated procedure but
I can send you step by step instructions if you let me have your email
address. Pretty well all after-market shock absorber manufacturers
produce upper mounting plates with the stud boss off centre, so that
reversing the plate will usually cope with 1" to 1.5" of
different shock absorber length. On the Bilstein, Koni and Spax fitting
instructions, the MGB/MGC require the longer operation, but on the
rubber bumper MGB and all MGBGTV8s they require the shorter operation.
Recently I
fitted a pair of Spax to my wife's rubber bumper MGBGT to replace
the Bilsteins and the improvement in ride is unbelievable. The chief
engineer at Spax is very helpful - you can contact him at tony_shakeshft@spaxperformance.com
if you feel you need more help. I could bring a free pair to Silverstone
next month if it would help - but don't mention this to Tony!"
Andy Torode
replied "my shock absorbers do indeed extend below the springs
when viewed from the rear. I do not know how long ago the kit was
fitted. The measurements of the existing setup mentioned earlier
were taken with the car up on stands placed under the front spring
hanger, and the rear axle hanging against the straps."
Gordon
Hesketh-Jones provided more information on his experiences with
Spax shock absorbers as a follow up to the information requested
by Andy Torode: "the original "long" Spax were purely
based on oil and its movement between the various chambers under
compression. They worked fine but the problem - for me at least
- was the protrusion below the rear springs which regularly became
damaged in rough-road driving in rallies and tours. At that time
Spax did not make shorter versions, so I first tried Bilsteins and
then Konis - but when combined with our 550lb rear springs both
of these induced an incredibly harsh ride
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even on motorways,
together with equally strong complaints from my wife. Spax then
produced their early "shorter" versions and I bought a
pair - the ride was greatly improved compared to the Konis and others
but there was a serious "chattering" noise from the Spax.
I complained to the supplier and was sent replacements FOC but the
same noise was present. This is when I contacted Spax and then the
series of testing started with Tony Shakeshaft sending down all
sorts of variations.
Eventually it transpired that the new units, which work on a combination
of oil and gas, were setting up a harmonic vibration with reference
to the MGB bodyshell; I witnessed equivalent tests at their factory
where there was no "rattle" but as soon as we popped the
same pair onto my V8 at the factory, the rattle returned. Note however
on the later versions I have here, the rattle is only audible when
driving at low speeds; at higher speeds the rattle is drowned out
by general V8 engine and wind noise. I understand that the harmonic
vibrations are smoothed out - but then I am not really a mechanical
engineer. The measurements of the units I have here were all taken
"static" in my garage - that is not extended as per your
V8BB posting.
To fit the new
shorter Spax you have to take off the spring retaining plates from
below the springs then swap them side to side, mounting them "upside
down" with the hole for the old lever shock absorber drop arm
now at the front, and pointing down. What can happen when you do
this is that the whole spring assemblies can come apart and getting
these hefty items together and back into place again is a pretty
frustrating and time-consuming task. To avoid this I have evolved
the following process from fairly bitter experience:
1.
Jack the rear end up with your jack under the differential, then
use axle stands to keep the axle up as high as possible.
2. Next, use two more axle stands (or substantial blocks of wood)
to support the spring on the side you are starting first, say 3"
either side of the link (retaining) plate - these stop the spring
on the side you are working on from coming apart.
3. One more support - use yet another axle stand/set of wooden blocks
under the brake drum of the side you are not working on - if you
do not do this then as soon as you undo the last bolt on the side
you are working on, then the whole axle will tip over with your
side going up in the air and the U-bolts will come out of the assembly
giving you much grief. Use chocks of some form to make sure that
items (2) and (3) above are really tight up against the spring or
brake drum.
With the
five supports in place you are ready to start, however note that
if the long U-bolts which secure the spring assemblies are worn
on the inside, then torque-steer will result so it might be a good
idea to buy a set of these before you start, and to change them
one by one as you work on each side. I am assuming that the existing
Spax brackets at the top will suit the new Spax units - in my experience
the brackets for the modern Spax, Koni and Bilstein are very similar
and can be interchanged. I do not have any spare top brackets.
As mentioned
previously, the units I have in stock are prototypes so will give
a light rattle at low speed - I just ignore it because I know that
the shock absorbers work perfectly. I do have a spare set of link
plates which I could lend to you but it would be essential to have
your own pair back in exchange - with a spare set it means that
you can finish one side totally before rearranging all of the supports".
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