V8
Newsletter
for April 2006 published in Safety Fast!,
the award winning monthly magazine of the MG Car Club
V8 ALIVE AND BURBLING
Welcome
news in March confirmed that the famous V8 engine is alive, burbling
and in production again in the UK with MCT, the engineering and
manufacturing specialist. MCT is reported to have won a contract
from Land Rover for the continuation of production to support the
aftermarket requirement for original equipment engines and its plant
at Weston-super-Mare. This is good news for the many enthusiasts
with V8 engines in Morgans, TVRs, Land Rovers and of course MGs
who were concerned over the long term spares availability. The V8
engine was one of the first with hydraulic cam followers and has
been a popular engine, confirmed when voted "the greatest engine
of all time" by Engine Technology International magazine in
2005.
V8 EVENTS IN APRIL AND MAY
Al Barnett (V8 Events Coordinator) is organising a V8 Gathering
at the Brooklands MG Day, a multi-club informal meeting, on Sunday
9th April at Brooklands in Weybridge. Another popular V8 Gathering
at the Shoulder of Mutton on Hazeley Heath in Hampshire is due on
Sunday 21st May. Full details of how to find this friendly pub and
a map are available on the V8 Website. See extra copy on V8 Lincolnshire
Tour. Mike can be contacted on 01778 440785 for more information.
FITTING
A MODERN CD STACKER IN AN RV8
One of our members in Japan, David Boniface (RV8 Oxford Blue
1589), provides a useful tip for upgrading the ICE in both an MGBV8
and RV8 enthusiasts.
I recently won an iPod Nano 2Gb in a prize draw and found the timing
of that win was quite fortunate. Living in Japan with an RV8, I
do not have the problem that European owners have with reimported
cars who have either to change the radio or use a frequency converter
of some kind. The OEM CD changers fitted to the RV8 model are now
as rare as hen's teeth, even in Japan, but I did manage to find
one a couple of years ago. However it recently failed and is uneconomical
to repair apparently. Whilst pondering what to do - for example
which new CD/radio combination to buy - I won the iPod.
OK, it is "only" a 2Gb model but it will store around
550 tracks which, if you assume that a typical CD will have say
10 tracks which you like, then that is the equivalent of 50 - 60
CDs - enough for most people I think. I then bought a simple cassette
adaptor; it looks like a cassette but has a cable which plugs into
the iPod and plays all the music on the iPod through the radio/cassette
player. This means that, in addition to having a personal music
player, I can use the iPod in any car with a cassette player or
an input jack.
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A variety of accessories
for using many different MP3 players in a car are available from Belkin
at http://world.belkin.com/ including the Mobile Cassette Adapater
F8V366-APL which easily connects your iPod device, portable MP3, CD,
cassette player, PC, or laptop to your car stereo through the in-dash
cassette player in your car. This simple modification is worth thinking
about rather than spending a lot of money to
OK, it is
"only" a 2Gb iPOd but it will store around 550 tracks
upgrade
the ICE, especially in a noisy open car.
A further benefit was freeing up some valuable boot space and I have
now found that the base unit for my Navi system will fit in the mounting
bracket for the original CD changer.

iPod nano is a compact unit - only 3.5 x 1.6 x 0.27 inches
and 1.5 ounces - linked through a cable to a cassette adapter unit.
(Photo: David Boniface)
KEEPING
CARS DRY OVER WINTER
Gordon Hesketh-Jones (Harvest Gold 1904) from Cornwall noted
there is full information on the EBAC range of dehumidifiers on their
website www.ebac-dehumidifiers.co.uk and they manufacture a wide range
of units ranging in price (and output) from £180 upwards. All
incorporate adjustable dehumidification controls so that you can set
your own levels of drying. Gordon's experience is that it is better
to have a number of smaller and quieter units rather than one large
unit because large units are generally too noisy to live with.
Peter Garton's comment about the condensers on these units is correct
as they are liable to ice up during cold weather. When Gordon saw
this happening with one of his units, he moved the dehumidifier up
onto a strong shelf and then located a heater underneath which was
controlled by a thermostat to bring it on if the temperature went
too low. Heating the garage also has beneficial effects on the life
of the car. Gordon clearly benefits from the benign climate in the
far south west of England as he adds "I suppose Peter's comment
about water freezing in a drain-off pipe is also correct but although
this might happen in some of the colder parts of Germany, it has not
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UPGRADING
THE SEALED BEAM UNITS ON A V8
Most V8 enthusiasts who still have sealed beam headlights find the
lights wholly inadequate for modern driving conditions. Steve Taylor
(RV8 Woodcote Green 1269) from Staffordshire, who runs the auto electrical
supplier SVC, provides a useful note on upgrading sealed beams so
more modern lighting standards can be achieved.
Driving an MGBGTV8 at night on the original sealed beam headlights,
you are aware that the level of illumination is not good enough on
country roads at even modest speeds. If you have rain as well, then
you find yourself straining to see ahead and reducing speed as you
simply cannot see very far ahead! Well this difficulty can be overcome
and better lighting achieved which is closer to the standards we experience
in more modern cars by fitting a headlamp conversion kit and good
bulbs.
For your MGBGTV8 you need the latest improved WIPAC Quadoptic 7"
lens as it has a moulded reflector and a convex lens. This is more
accurate than the older pressed steel reflector, but more importantly
for you, when replacing the sealed beam light it has a similar "pinch",
the thickness of the glass and reflector that clamps the headlight
into the "nest" assembly. The older types tended to rattle
if not packed out. These lenses can be bought without side light for
the chrome bumper V8 and with integral side lights for the rubber
bumper models. Both are left dipping units for the UK market.
The SVC prices including VAT for Halogen Quadoptic lenses @ £34
pair and Upgrade Quadoptic lenses @ £46 pair with delivery a
further £6.00. Right dipping units are available for the mainland
European and USA markets at £40 and £52 respectively.
What can one say about sealed beam lights other than
the sooner you replace them the better
The Halogen Quadoptic units take an H4 halogen bulb and the Upgrade
Quadoptic units take an H4 xenon bulb which
produces 50% more output. We can supply the standard halogen H4 bulb
- or an up-rated bulb. We do not supply the high wattage bulbs (which
are illegal in any case) as these can put a strain on the original
wiring and switches. We do supply bulbs having a mix of Xenon and
Halogen gasses. The draw the same current and the light is brighter
as they burn hotter. Osram claims an additional 50% light. I have
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Geoff King changed
to Cibies for his V8 Roadster. (Photo: Geoff King)
these on the MGB
Roadster although not on the RV8 yet, and they are good!
What can one say
about sealed beam lights other than the sooner you replace them
the better. They were designed in the 1940s when driving was far
more sedate. The light output is very poor. We generally say that
at 4 mph, sealed beams are just about OK!
Gordon Hesketh-Jones adds - "As I have always used
my V8 all-year-round with considerable night-driving plus of course
club rallies, one of my first tasks nearly 20 years ago was to replace
the ridiculous sealed beam units with modern units and halogen bulbs.
Because by definition these replacements are not sealed, the steel
reflectors went rusty and needed to be replaced every four to five
years. However the then-60w halogen bulbs produced good quality,
useable light so the regular reflector changes were a small price
to pay for decent lights. The current replacement units in my V8
set are by WIPAC and I agree that that their convex front lens profile
looks remarkably like the original (Lucas) sealed beam units.
When I bought an 1800 MGBGT for my wife Jennifer in October 2002,
one of the first tasks was to fit new headlights plus 60w halogen
bulbs. Her replacement headlights are by Lucas and the front profile
is quite flat but the 60w halogens in the Lucas lenses give a better
light than the halogens I have fitted in my WIPAC lenses at present.
So I would hesitate to give the WIPAC headlights too strong an endorsement,
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although
the mention of non-steel reflectors is very interesting.
With respect to the comment about the wiring, the headlamp wiring
harness is easily able to cope with the load from two 100w headlights
which is only 16.6amps compared to the 60w bulbs which draw a total
of 10amps. The weak point in the system however is the headlamp switch/dip
switch, so I fitted a pair of relays to switch the main load.
I did experiment with quartz-iodine bulbs a few years ago; the light
seemed only slightly better but then one failed in less than 6 weeks
so I reverted to halogens".
Chris Hunt Cooke has a V8 Roadster Conversion and comments
"just as an additional thought on headlight replacement, I
think it is worthwhile considering fitting headlamp units incorporating
sidelights on the chrome bumper cars, and re-routing the cable from
the existing sidelights. The MGB side lamp unit is not well protected
from the weather and will eventually start to corrode however much
Waxoyl is used on it. Experience shows that it is always the sidelight
that fails first, being smaller and more delicate than the flasher
bulb, so taking it out of service effectively prolongs the life of
the whole unit. Since the existing assembly is left in place and intact,
this modification is only visible when the lights are in use".
Bob Owen (V8 Blaze 1625) from Hampshire contributed some points
as a sequel saying "my V8 has Hella replacement headlights
with high output Halogen bulbs - currently road legal 60W/55W Cool
Blue bulbs from Osram - with xenon gas (see below). The performance
is almost up to the lights on my 1997 Rover 214; however, the beam
definition is noticeably poorer".
Geoff King (V8 Tartan Red 4029) from Kincardineshire added
"There are replacement headlights available from several manufacturers
such as Ring, Wipac, Hella and Cibie. Bulbs too are available from
several manufacturers - but they are not all equal in quality.
I have a Mini that happens to have a Hella reflector on one side and
a Cibie on the other, both fitted with the same Halogen bulbs; the
Cibie has a far more defined beam pattern. My MGB originally had one
Wipac and one Hella headlight, the Wipac was worse than the Hella
for beam scatter and corroded quickly. A change to Cibie reflectors
made a large improvement and with 100/90-watt Halogen bulbs (no longer
available) they are as good if not better than any car without HID
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Cibie
H4 headlamp unit fitted to a rubber bumpered V8 - note the US
market adjuster gaps on the chrome rims. (David Biddle)
opinion the best
replacement 7" headlight unit is a Cibie
H180 with 100/80 Power White bulbs or, if your car needs E-marked
bulbs, then 60/55-watt 4000K cool blue. One of the cheapest places
to buy them is Classic And Rally Services, Unit 1, Joules Croft, Elton,
Matlock - their contacts are http://www.cars.u-net.com/cibie.htm and
01629 650800. Bob Owen responded saying the beam definition information
was useful and he will look out for some Cibies.
CIBIE
HEADLIGHT CONVERSION
David Biddle (V8 Chartreuse 2839) from Buckinghamshire provides
a useful note on his long term experience with the Cibie replacement
round headlamp units.
The Cibie
7 inch round headlamp units with halogen bulbs seemed to get members'
votes as the preferred replacement unit for the MGBGTV8 in an earlier
V8NOTE so I thought a report from a long term user of these units
might be helpful. I fitted my first set of these light units in
1990, when my rubber bumpered model had done some 50,000 miles.
The total cost of two light units and two halogen bulbs from a motor
factor amounted to £43.01 including VAT. I fitted the units
myself without any difficulty, although I took them to my local
tyre depot where they set the beams somewhat more precisely than
my 'chalk marks on the garage door' approach! I was very satisfied
with the performance of these light units and I think
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that
they are without doubt the best light units of this size available
to us.
After a dozen years of use, I felt that the beams had lost some of
their lustre and so in 2003, with just over 92,000 miles on the clock,
I decided to replace them. This time I purchased the same specification
light units over the internet from Classic and Rally Services at www.cars-gb.com.
For my RHD rubber bumper car the Cibie headlamp units are Model 180
and include main/dip and side lights but they are also available without
the sidelights for chrome bumpered cars. At that time, I paid £38.82
including VAT for a pair of units and the 'next day delivery' charge
was £6.90. The current price would appear to be £43.56
including VAT for the rubber bumper version and £45.10 for the
chrome bumper unit plus delivery. They are also available for LHD
V8s.
Halogen
lamps with Xenon should not be confused with "Xenon head lights"
From the technical
tests that I have seen, there is quite a variation in performance
of the halogen 'bulbs' and, after considering the test results available,
I chose the Osram Silverstar H4 Halogen bulbs at £13.64 including
VAT for a pair. These are claimed to be 50% brighter than the standard
H4 halogen 'bulb', but are still road legal.
An additional modification is to fit the US model headlamp rims
which have spaces which enable the beams to be adjusted without
removing the chrome rims. These were fitted by Geoff Allen soon
after I acquired the car, but as they are so useful it seems extraordinary
that BL did not fit them to all cars produced at Abingdon instead
of only those for the US market? Geoff Allen also found me a set
of US specification side flashers, which are a life saver in today's
traffic conditions. I found that the standard flasher unit was not
up to powering three flashers on each side of the car so I have
fitted another electronic flasher unit which makes a huge difference
to driving pleasure in traffic.
LIGHTING
HISTORY AND TERMINOLOGY
Bob Owen (V8 Blaze 1625) from Hampshire provides some useful
notes, particularly for those who might be interested in converting
from sealed beams to more modern lighting systems.
Most lighting developments come from GE, the US successor to Edison's
original company. They developed sealed beam units in the 1940s
and halogen bulbs in the late 1950s although Philips also have some
claims. The terms Halogen, Quartz Halogen, Tungsten Halogen and
Quartz Iodine are largely synonymous. They refer to a bulb with
a small quartz glass envelope and tungsten filament with a halogen
gas filler. Halogen is the name of a chemical family comprising
Iodine, Chlorine and Bromine. Halogen lamps use either Iodine or
Bromine. They allow a tungsten filament to be run very hot but still
not fail. In a conventional lamp, attempts to get more light by
running the filament hotter result in evaporation of tungsten from
the filament - this deposits on the cool glass envelope (blackening)
and the resulting thinner parts of the filament run even hotter,
so evaporating more and causing run-away thinning and early failure.
GE found that if halogen vapour is present in the lamp it combines
with the particles of tungsten that have been evaporated from the
filament and redeposits them back on the filament- magic! But for
this process to take place, bulb wall temperatures should not be
below 250 C. To achieve this, the bulb must be small to be close
to the filament and cannot be of ordinary glass as it would soften,
so it is made of quartz glass. Further efficiencies can be achieved
by adding other gasses, for example xenon, to pressurize the envelope
and further discourage evaporation. The result is a bulb which gives
at least 50% more light per watt than a conventional bulb and still
has a long life.
Halogen lamps with Xenon should not be confused with "Xenon
head lights" which are high voltage discharge lamps now appearing
on upmarket models and give at least twice the light per watt as
standard bulbs. It's interesting that the regulations appear to
define the power of the headlight bulbs NOT the light output - ie
they are implicitly based on assumptions from old technology. All
efforts are therefore in getting more light for a given power. We
could have had more light with old technology if higher power levels
were allowed!
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HOW
DO YOU OPEN THE BONNET WHEN THE RELEASE CABLE HAS SNAPPED?
Alan McLean
(V8 Damask 1516) in Dublin posted a message on the V8BB seeking help
with this problem and Geoff Allen, who worked in the Rectifications
Department at the MG Factory for 27 years, came up with his routine
for getting the bonnet undone again. Alan was grateful to have Geoff's
experience and other members may find they will need this tip one
day.
It is a bit of a fiddle when the bonnet release cable snaps but I
usually find the following procedure works.
1. Give the bonnet release catch a good soaking with WD40 through
the grill from underneath using a can with the extension pipe fitted.
2. Press the bonnet up and down on the free play a few times to make
sure it's free.
3. Get someone to keep the bonnet pressed down as far as possible
to take the load off the catch, and then direct a light up through
the radiator grille to the left of the centre badge housing where
you will see the back of the catch lever.
4. Push a piece of rod around 3/8" diameter and 18" long
between the platform support and the fan motor bracket and press the
catch lever over to the right and holding it there release the bonnet
lid. It sounds a bit of a fiddle, and it is but in the majority of
cases it works.
The usual cause of cable breakage is water (and salt) entering the
outer cable where it curves round in front of the radiator diaphragm,
the outer case opens to allow the wet in. I tend to fit a plastic
sleeve to the front couple of feet of a new cable to stop the ingress
of water and also give the cable a good greasing before fitting the
new one. If you really want a top job do as I did and replace the
outer cable with a length of copper nickel brake pipe.
CRACKED RV8 STEERING RACK MOUNTS
Reports of a cracked steering rack mount on an RV8 have just come
in from Brown &Gammons at Baldock. The detailed report
will follow next month but all members with an RV8 - and also an MGBGTV8
or MGV8 Conversion with a Heritage shell - are strongly advised to
have the condition of their mounts checked. They need close inspection
with strong lighting. Do not assume that a routine MOT inspection
will pick up fine cracks on the mounts because the RV8 above had passed
an annual MOT last year and had done very few miles since! We know
that many Club members with MGBs visit our website and read this column
so we do urge them to note this warning as it also applies to rubber
bumpered MGB Roadsters and GTs.
There are detailed
workshop notes in both the RV8 and V8 series on a modification involving
fitting a strengthening gusset either as part of a repair where
a cracked mount has been found or as a preventative measure.
REPLACEMENT
WINDSCREEN GLASS
Sigge Redhe contacted the V8 Webmaster for help in tracking down
a source of supply for a replacement RV8 windscreen glass. Al
Barnett provides the information needed.
Unfortunately
during the restoration of the windscreen of his RV8, he removed
the glass from the windscreen surround and placed it on its "back"
on the table where it remained for a couple of months while he restored
his rusted windscreen surround. Unfortunately it cracked in the
middle, so needed a new one. Sigge enquired whether we knew if that
glass is the similar to the glass used in another MG or any other
Rover model? If not, what do other owners do in a similar situation?
Al Barnett responded
with some useful help: There is a firm called Uroglas advertising
new RV8 screens on Ebay, price £157 including delivery. They
are a stock item and he purchased one for a spare. It arrived in
the most elaborate packing Al had ever seen, a wooden frame about
6 feet by 4 feet. It took him a day to dismantle it, remove literally
dozens of nails and then convert it to firewood! The firm operate
out of Redditch in the south west Midlands and gave me very good
service. I have also purchased a rubber screen seal and top of screen
seal from Brown & Gammons at Baldock costing £139 with
postage and packing.
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