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Performance
gains from removing the CATs
Matt Jones posted a query on the V8BB and some useful responses followed
as guidance for fellow members. (Nov 08)
Matt Jones'
query was straightforward: "does anyone know if there are any
performance gains to be had from removing the CATs and replacing with
a straight through system?" He was uncertain whether the car
would fail the annual MOT without them but was "interested to
see if anyone has found any noticeable difference in performance"
without them and if there would be an increased in exhaust noise.
He added "a friend of mine recently put them back on his TVR
because it was just too noisy on long trips."
Bryan Shacklady responded saying "I'll wait for Geoff
King to chip in and tell me I'm wrong, but I believe the car will
definitely fail the emissions test without them. There is also the
question of whether you are driving a car that is roadworthy if you
only put them on for the MOT test. I thought we had this discussion
before, but unless I am being daft with my search criteria, I can't
find the reference." He added he had found a webpage which "suggests
that on an removing the CAT on an MGF would cause an emissions test
fail, and, interestingly, for very little horsepower gain, which I
had not realized. I had thought CATs sapped quite a lot of power,
but apparently not. No doubt someone will be along shortly to confirm
what the case is for an RV8."
Peter Garton from Germany added that "removing your CATs
is probably illegal anyway and your car will definitely fail the MOT.
Why not create an illusion in that you get the single silencer unit
from Clive Wheatley and really enjoy the superb sound it creates with
an increase in power of about 0.1%! This is a one-time job and is
permanent, saving all |
that shillyshallying
about underneath the car" each year replacing the CATs for
the MOT.
Geoff King then provided a useful view with "I can't comment
based on experience because my V8 Roadster conversion has an open
loop fuel injection with no Lambda sensors or CATs and it's old
enough (registered anyway) not to require any emissions test for
the MOT, but the RV8 has a closed loop injection system with Lambda
sensors. That system tries to maintain the optimum fuel/air ratio
but it needs the CATs to reduce the emissions to legal levels. It
would almost certainly fail the MOT without them. I would also expect
power gains without CATs to be negligible - the fuel/air ratio would
still be the same - and would you really notice the difference in
everyday driving even if the power gain were say 5bhp?"
Searching
the V8BB archives reveals the topic was raised by Richard
Withington in June 2008 when Geoff King responded "IMHO
the removal of the cats will have a negligible affect on performance
or fuel consumption, however, there will be a significant
increase in emissions and the vehicle will not pass the MOT
test." |
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