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R380 gearbox
oil change Barry Martin posted a note on the V8BB saying he found
changing the gearbox oil on his RV8's R380 gearbox a much less arduous task. Here
he explains how. (Aug 07) I agree with everything
Peter Garton has written in RV8NOTE271 but find it
a less arduous task than he describes and one I can complete in 30 minutes or
so. One most important point for anyone contemplating changing their gearbox oil
on their own is to be aware that the later R380 gearbox has a Torx socketed filler
plug (on the offside/UK driver's side of the gearbox) which will actually allow
a certain sized allen key to fit and feel reasonably correct. Beware, if the plug
is very tight or 'heat secured', you can very easily end up stripping the Torx
socket and have a plug which is now next to impossible to remove as it is almost
flush with the gearbox casing. The Torx bit required is very large, not commonly
stocked by many motor accessories shops, but Halfords do have them. From memory
I believe it is a T55. Needless to say, ensure the filler plug is slightly loosened
before draining the gearbox, if you drain first and then have problems removing
the filler plug you are up the proverbial creek! Incidentally I think the earlier
LT77 box has a square headed (male) filler plug. Finally, thanks to Stuart
for the excellent advice on updated gearbox and diff lubricants (posted 2-3 months
ago) which I followed on my last change. As this method seemed much easier,
the Editor of the RV8NOTES series, Victor Smith asked Barry to post an additional
note which would add more detail to help explain why he finds the oil change fairly
straightforward. Barry Martin sent in a prompt note alongside.. As a
sequel to the three notes on gearbox oil changes - the useful RV8NOTE213 contributed
by Martyn Selwyn back in July 2004, RV8NOTE271 above from Peter Garton and this
RV8NOTE272 from Barry Martin - we checked with Brown & Gammons at Baldock
as to how they do an R380 gearbox oil change. Ron Gammons notes "we of course
have the RV8 up on ramps and then you must remove the heat shield. We do not remove
the cats as there is always a risk you will damage a cat in that process and they
are a costly item to replace. Filling with an oil pump as Barry Martin suggests
is right or you can use an oil syringe for filling the gearbox to the correct
level". He
added that "as gearbox oil changes are not a frequent activity, surely it
would be an item where many RV8 enthusiasts would prefer to take their car to
a specialist like B&G or Clive Wheatley who have the ramps and the necessary
sockets and oil pump to enable the job to be done easily. It is the type of job
you can book in for early morning, arrive early and allow the exhaust system to
cool down and then the car can slip into the workshop so the job can be done rapidly
and then very soon you will be on your way home!" It is a thought although
Barry Martin comments "some members do gain satisfaction from working on
their own classic vehicles".
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R380
oil change with a fluid transfer pump I first warm up the R380 gearbox
to allow better oil flow when draining the box. Then I use axle stands either
side at the front of the car (chocks at the rear wheels with the handbrake on)
to gain easy access to the front couplings of both cats. Undo the two bolts on
each coupling release the cats. As they are still attached to the rear section
of the exhaust, so support carefully without allowing them to drop thereby breaking
the sensor wires. It also helps to remove the forward most rubber exhaust hanger
on the right hand side. The bolts can now be removed from the cat heat
shield - don't miss the one in the centre at the back - and then the heat shield
can be carefully moved away. At the right hand side of the gearbox the fill plug
is now accessible on the gearbox casing side and the drain plug close by at the
base of the casing. Place a suitably large container underneath the gearbox drain
point and then remove the filler plug (Martyn Selwyn says it is a Torx T55 socket
in RV8NOTE213) and then the drain plug and
allow the oil to drain. The car can now be raised and the axle stands removed
to lower the car to level ground. Allow a few minutes for the gearbox to drain
completely. Raise the car and replace axle stands to gain access to the filler
and drain holes once more. The drain plug should be refitted, using a new copper
washer available from any Land Rover dealer at £1.00. Refilling
the gearbox is difficult if you use the 1 litre tubed container in which the new
lubricant is supplied because the space at the side of the gearbox is limited.
I would recommend a fluid transfer pump (available on ebay at around £10
to £20) or a smaller container with a tube. The manual states that the gearbox
is full when the lubricant starts to flow out of the filler hole of the gearbox
but this, of course, is with the vehicle level. The RV8 Repair Manual states the
capacity for an R380 is 2.9 litres without the oil cooler. If you wish to be spot
on with the oil level, the only sure way is to slightly overfill the gearbox,
by lowering only the left hand side of the car, which tilts the gearbox away from
the filler hole. Removing the right side stand and gently lowering the car to
level out completely will allow the excess oil to drain from the filler hole to
achieve the correct level. I feel it is a dangerous practice to use four axle
stands (one at each corner) to achieve a level car as a way of saving the constant
raising and lowering of the car and would advise against. So having achieved the
correct oil level, then raise the car from the right hand side first to prevent
the oil from tipping out of the filler hole. Once the car is on one stand (the
right hand side) the filler plug can be fitted. Then raise and fit the left hand
side axle stand and start a reversal of procedure by refitting heat shield and
cats. Phew! -
that was much worse to write than to do, but I hope it makes sense. |
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