| 191 RV8 alarm ECU - suspected vulnerability
 Brian Moyse 
(BRG 1714) from Surrey posted a caution on the V8 Bulletin Board concerning the 
risk of damage to the alarm ECU if the battery runs down if the car is not used, 
typically during the Winter months. (Oct 03)
 
 October 
is the time of year when many RV8 owners may be having thoughts about laying their 
cars up for the Winter months. This posting is to remind members that it is important 
to either disconnect the battery on the car during a long period of lay-up or 
to ensure that the battery is kept fully charged because there are electronic 
systems on the RV8 which will slowly discharge the battery if it is left connected 
for
 long periods. The note is also a warning to RV8 owners of the potential 
damage which can occur to the original equipment alarm electronic control unit 
(ECU) if the battery is allowed to discharge and then attempts are made to start 
the car with insufficient voltage from the battery.
 
 At 
least two RV8 members have suffered fatal alarm ECU failures which appear to have 
occurred immediately after attempts to start the car were made with low battery 
voltage/capacity. In one instance the problem was a discharged battery, in the 
other the battery connections were found to be loose. In both cases attempting 
to start the car resulted in the starter motor solenoid "pumping". This 
occurs when there are sufficient volts to pull in the solenoid, but insufficient 
volts to turn the starter
 | motor. 
The current draw of the starter motor winding results in a further drop in the 
voltage which then causes the solenoid to drop out. The voltage then recovers, 
whereupon the solenoid pulls in again and the cycle repeats for as long as the 
starter motor/ignition switch is operated.
 
 A 
possible explanation for the ECU failures is an inherent vulnerability to voltage 
transients (spikes) on the electrical supply system. Voltage transients could 
occur as a result of the solenoid "pumping" - that is rapid switching 
of an inductance (the solenoid coil plus the starter motor winding) in a direct 
current circuit, similar to the voltage transients that cause arcing at the contact 
breaker points in a distributor when switching the ignition coil circuit. The 
ECU failure is total in that no communication is possible with the remote "plips" 
or the MG Rover "Testbook" diagnostic system and the alarm system will 
not set or un-set.
 
 Footnote from Victor Smith (Harvest Gold V8 1089) who reminds readers 
that a good way of keeping the battery on an RV8 or MGBGTV8 in good condition 
and well charged during a lay-up is to connect a battery management unit to the 
battery so a regular trickle charge is maintained. The advantage of the battery 
management units is they cut off when the battery is fully charged thereby avoiding 
the risk of the electrolyte being boiled. See RV8 Workshop Note 56 for more information 
on battery management units.
 
 
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